The Catalyst: Sparking Creative Transformation in Healthcare

Unplugged: A Day in the Life of Dr. Lara in Flow

Have you ever wondered what 'coloring outside the lines' really means in day-to-day life? Dr. Lara Salyer walks us through a day in her life, revealing how she optimizes flow and sparks innovation in healthcare. From her intentional morning rituals to strategic time management, Dr. Salyer shares her personal systems for success!
 
There are four stages of the flow cycle: struggle, release, flow, and recovery. Dr. Lara highlights the necessity of balancing skills with challenges to effectively achieve a state of flow, explaining how each stage plays a crucial role in the overall experience.
 
Taking us through a typical day, Dr. Lara acknowledges the diversity of her daily activities as a physician, consultant, speaker, and mentor. She stresses the importance of creating ideal conditions for flow the night before, including practices like bedtime routines, Yoga Nidra meditation, avoiding late-night eating or drinking, and thoughtful calendar planning.
 
Each morning, Dr. Lara engages in specific rituals to prime herself for flow, such as occasionally taking a cold plunge, delaying caffeine intake, and spending quality time with her family. She discusses creating an optimal work environment, minimizing disruptions, and using focused time blocks to enhance productivity.
 
Dr. Lara also shares how she incorporates intentional state changes throughout her day, including breathwork and movement, to sustain flow and manage her energy. She reveals her strategies for handling appointments and tasks, and how tools like Boomerang and Trello aid in organization and idea capturing.
 
Emphasizing the significance of self-awareness in finding one's unique flow rhythm, Dr. Lara encourages listeners to experiment and learn from their experiences, adjusting routines and systems to maximize flow. For anyone looking to blend flow into their daily life, you’ll get tips on energy optimization, time management, and maintaining balance across various responsibilities.Quotes:
• “I say the word systems because I like that better than routines. Routines sound boring and monotonous, but systems are designed to support a goal, to support your optimal energy.” (2:34 | Dr. Lara Salyer) 
• “I also like to check in with my body frequently and that is definitely great for flow because flow is about managing what's going on in your state of your body and your mind and your emotions. So checking in and doing a feelings wheel - what am I feeling? Where is that living? What does it need? Do I need to be still and give it more space? Or do I need to move and work it out? That helps me stay on top.” (16:16 | Dr. Lara Salyer)
• “I love Trello. It is a great way to just capture any of those errant ideas running around in your head that happen at any moment in your day. It can take you completely out of flow. You could even be in the grocery store having these ideas - you could have them everywhere and what a tragedy it would be if they're lost.” (17:59 | Dr. Lara Salyer)
• “The best part of being a catalyst practitioner is you know how to make an immediate impact with small tiny moments. You know how to control that energy, to protect that energy, to find your flow and honor your own cadence, because then it's effortless. All you do is a few teeny things and you are a catalyst practitioner.” (19:14 | Dr. Lara Salyer)
 
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Catalyst Kit: https://rightbrainrescue.com/p/catalyst_kit
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
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Convert More Patients To Your Practice With This Question

Discovery calls are a vital tool for making your practice stronger. In this episode Dr. Lara Salyer explores the power of discovery calls in healthcare, and shares how they can be a tool for connecting with potential patients, especially for a provider in a community where functional medicine is yet to gain ground.
 
Dr. Salyer explains how aligning discovery calls with core values like education, transparency, autonomy, and efficiency can transform patient engagement. She uses her website as an example, showing how these values, integrated into pre-education materials, help potential patients grasp her approach even before they make the first call.
 
The episode then guides listeners through a strategic sequence of questions based on the Prochaska model of behavior change, starting with identifying the patient's primary medical challenges and goals. Dr. Salyer highlights the significance of understanding past strategies that patients have found beneficial, offering insights into their readiness for change.
 
Further, she probes into why patients believe a holistic medical approach suits them and why they think it's the right time for this shift. These questions aim to unearth the patients' motivations and readiness for embracing a new healthcare journey. The discussion also includes assessing patients' current prescription medications, providing a complete picture of their health status.
 
One innovative concept introduced in this episode is the feedback survey for discovery calls that don't lead to patient conversions. Dr. Salyer emphasizes the value of understanding why a potential patient might say no, using this as an opportunity to refine the approach and address any barriers to conversion.
 
This episode is packed with practical resources and advice for practitioners to enhance their discovery call techniques and boost patient conversion rates, grow your practice and amplify your reach.  If you like this content and you want more information like this, explore Dr. Salyer’s Streamline Course.
Quotes:
• “Even the thought of doing a discovery call prickles many healthcare practitioners because at our heart, we aren't salespeople. And we feel that health care is a right. Health care is a necessity. We just want to serve. So why would we want to get on a discovery call that just feels incongruent with our values?” (1:42 | Dr. Lara Salyer)
• “You need to ask for and provide a feedback survey for those discovery calls that didn't convert. In fact, I recommend a lot of communication.” (10:57 | Dr. Lara Salyer)
• “Read those feedback surveys when you're feeling in your wise mind and you're feeling stable. You're grounded and you can handle this because that will be the gold that you're searching for.” (13:20 | Dr. Lara Salyer) 
 
Links:
Streamline Course: https://rightbrainrescue.com/p/streamline
 
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Light Up Your Life With Osteopathically Inspired Self Care

Did you know your walk could be the key to better spinal health? Join Dr. Lara Salyer and Dr. Michelle Veneziano, a renowned osteopathic physician and cranial osteopathy expert, as they unravel the concepts of flow and energy in healing. Dr. Michelle brings a unique perspective on self-care, emphasizing the vital role of aligning with nature's rhythms.
Throughout the episode, Dr. Michelle delves into how something as simple as the way we walk can significantly influence our spinal health, often exceeding the benefits of traditional treatments. She advocates for attuning to our body's natural rhythms, suggesting that this connection is a powerful tool for navigating life's challenges with ease and grace.
Listeners will find Dr. Michelle's insights on personal empowerment through natural alignment both enlightening and inspiring. She encourages embracing our innate healing capabilities, emphasizing the importance of living in harmony with the world around us. Unlocking the magic of this flow in your life can help you achieve a deeper sense of well-being and alignment.
 
Quotes:
• "The way you walk can help you feel energetically aligned more than in any osteopathic treatment, believe it or not." (01:10 | Dr. Lara Salyer)
• "We talk about this a lot in our conversation about noticing the surroundings and how energy impacts you and how you as a healer, if you're not regulated in your energy and not aware of the beauty of learning this kind of regulation, it makes it harder to treat patients, both osteopathically, conventionally, in whatever arena you have."(2:03 | Dr. Lara Salyer) 
• "We're all born as experts. There's nothing advanced or esoteric at all about what I'm saying. It's like settling back into a station on a dial where if you hit a frequency. It's a breath - we live in a breath that's synchronized with the planet." (07:06 | Dr. Michelle Veneziano)
• "All of existence is in this expanding and contracting cycle, and everything in nature happens through communication through spiral forms of waveforms." (7:21 | Dr. Michelle Veneziano) 
•  "We're all in so much distress and trauma that we naturally move into a hypervigilance fixation on what isn't working so we can fix it." (12:28 | Dr. Michelle Veneziano)
 
Links
Connect with Michelle Veneziano:
(Free) Osteopathic Flow Practice Study Group on FB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/233769901514019
YouTube: Michelle Veneziano, DO https://youtube.com/c/MichelleVenezianoDO
Flow Is Medicine on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/flowismedicine/
Michelle Veneziano DO on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michellevenezianodo/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-veneziano-do/
Website: https://www.FlowIsMedicine.com
 
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Delivering Personalized Clinical Excellence for Hurried Patients

Ever wondered what happens when cybersecurity meets functional medicine? In this engaging episode of The Catalyst podcast, host Dr. Lara Salyer welcomes Josh Zappacosta, founder of Function 365, an innovative electronic medical record (EMR) system tailored for functional and integrative medicine practices. Josh's journey is a captivating one, beginning in cybersecurity and leading to the co-founding of both a functional medicine practice and Function 365. His story is a perfect blend of tech-savvy expertise and healthcare innovation.
Josh delves into the reasons why some clinics in the functional and integrative medicine space struggle, highlighting the crucial need for systemization and effective team building. He emphasizes the importance of clinicians seeking support early on, sharing insights into the complexities of managing a successful practice. Josh explains how Function 365 aids clinicians in systematizing their practices, automating processes, and ensuring personalized patient care through efficient data collection and analysis.
A significant part of their discussion focuses on the challenges of implementing lifestyle recommendations and the importance of maintaining control over patient data. Josh underlines that Function 365 is designed with the clinician's needs in mind, allowing them to manage and utilize data effectively for informed healthcare decisions. He advocates for clinicians to harness data and technology to scale their services and improve patient outcomes, painting a picture of a more efficient and patient-focused healthcare system.
 
Quotes:
• "F365 was really built around delivering a functional medicine or integrative care model for patients, especially if it's multidisciplinary, and make sure that that is a business system that people can run and manage and maintain inside their practice and scale." (06:52 | Josh Zappacosta)
• “I think technology, once it meet our expectations of how we want to be one on one with the patient or one too many, this is gonna be the new dawn of a future.” (35:00 | Dr. Lara Salyer) 
• "The ability to manage, maintain, and get insights out of your data in an environment where you own the data is really important." (38:04 | Josh Zappacosta)
• "I assume that most doctors don't want to learn how to code and certainly don't want to pay for market rate for someone in their practice to be able to do that on an ongoing basis and tie all these things together." (35:59 | Josh Zappacosta)
• “The subject has rights to be able to access and view their data with you as a practice at any time. The practice is the data controller. That means that you are the owner of the data, and you instruct your data processor, Function 365, what to do with your data as a business. You own the data. It's our role to do the things that you ask, that you instruct us to, as the owner of your information.” (39:09 | Josh Zappacosta) 
 
Links
Connect with Josh Zappacosta:
Website: https://function365.co.uk
FIND module (to assemble your team and tech): https://rightbrainrescue.com/p/find
IMAGINE module (to identify your core values and ideal patient): https://rightbrainrescue.com/p/imagine
 
 
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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5 Tips to Fix Patients That Ghost

Have you ever scheduled a date with your patient only to be stood up? In this episode, Dr. Lara Salyer tackles the perplexing trend of patient ghosting with wit and wisdom, offering five key strategies to keep your patients as engaged in their appointments as they are with their social media feeds.
The conversation starts by debunking the myth that ghosting is just a patient problem, urging healthcare providers to look at their own systems and practices.
Here's a quick breakdown of the action plan Dr. Salyer proposes:
Smart, piercing reminders that ensure your appointment doesn't get lost in the inbox shuffle.
Consistent, compelling communication through newsletters and texts that turn your clinic into a health hub for your patients.
Streamlined access with a single digital touchpoint for all patient services.
Active solicitation of patient feedback to refine your services and foster patient loyalty.
The creation of a judgment-free zone that normalizes health struggles and strengthens patient-practitioner trust.
Dr. Salyer she shares real-life transformations from her own practice that testify to the power of these strategies. This episode provides a toolkit for healthcare providers to strengthen their relationship with patients, ensuring that no appointment goes unfilled
 
Quotes:
• "90% of ghosting is because of the practitioner's systems." - Dr. Lara Salyer (00:01:45) 
• “I quickly saw the gamut of behavior that packages encourages. First of all, you've got those patients that forget they bought the package. It happens. And six months later, they're messaging you saying, oh, I forgot. Can I just get a refund? I never came, I never cashed in on any of my advantages or visits. Or the opposite, you have a really motivated patient who, instead of taking six months to achieve goals, they're better in two. So now what do you do? I felt unethical keeping their money? That just is not the kind of medical services I wanted to provide.” (2:40 | Dr. Lara Salyer)
• “I would invite you to dig deep in this episode and go over the five ways that you can make your ghosting percentages go down, and how you can make your clinic services the most welcome and inviting place for patients to get care.” (5:16 | Dr. Lara Salyer) 
 
Links
Connect with Lara: 
The Catalyst Way Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/the.catalyst.way/
Brainstorm Session: https://drlarasalyer.as.me/discovery
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Healthcare Starts With Self Care

In this episode of The Catalyst Podcast, Dr. Lara Salyer interviews Dr. Reena Kotecha, a medical doctor and organizational well-being consultant. Dr. Kotecha shares her personal journey of experiencing burnout and struggling with mental health issues while working as a hospital doctor. She discusses a pivotal moment in a supermarket where she had a panic attack, highlighting the lack of self-awareness and self-care among healthcare professionals.
Dr. Kotecha emphasizes the importance of creating space for human connection and self-reflection in the healthcare system. She believes that healthcare starts with self-care and advocates for the integration of mindfulness and well-being practices into the daily lives of healthcare professionals. She shares her own experiences of practicing Ayurvedic medicine and learning about mindfulness and meditation at the Dalai Lama's resident temple in India.
Dr. Kotecha encourages healthcare professionals to adopt a beginner's mindset and approach each moment with curiosity and openness. She emphasizes the need for small daily disciplines that build resilience and self-compassion over time. She also highlights the importance of celebrating small achievements and finding joy in everyday moments.
Dr. Kotecha's mission is to improve the well-being of healthcare professionals through her Mindful Medics training program. This program focuses on personal well-being, productivity, performance, and engagement in the workplace. She believes that by taking care of themselves, healthcare professionals can better care for others and create a more compassionate and supportive healthcare system.
Listeners are encouraged to connect with Dr. Kotecha through her website and LinkedIn profile. Dr. Salyer concludes the episode by urging listeners to share the episode with colleagues and continue practicing the sixth vital sign of creativity in their daily lives.Quotes:
• "We live in a world where healthcare professionals are burning out, they're depleting, they're leaving in droves." (09:59 | Dr. Reena Kotecha)
• "We don't talk enough about our challenges, our difficulties, our state of mental and emotional well-being, and our loneliness." (12:35 | Dr. Reena Kotecha)
• "We need to create the conditions to look after ourselves and each other in this system." (12:35 | Dr. Reena Kotecha) 
• "It's the small daily disciplines which build up over time, which allow you to care for yourself, to become more resilient, to become more compassionate." (37:59 | Dr. Reena Kotecha)
• "My vision is a world without burnout, and my mission is to teach one million medical professionals how to tap into creativity and flow to increase joy and well-being." (43:42 | Dr. Lara Salyer)
 
Links
Connect with Dr. Reena Kotecha:
Mindfulness Course: mindfulmedics.teachable.com/p/mindful-in-healthcare-the-wellbeing-performance-course-for-healthcare-professionals
 
Connect with Lara: 
Membership Magic Workshop (Nov 8th): https://www.eventbrite.com/e/membership-magic-design-your-own-3-tier-functional-medicine-membership-tickets-735854850667?aff=oddtdtcreator
Catalyst Reclamation CME course: https://rightbrainrescue.com/p/reclamation
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Creating Health to Reveal Meaning and Ultimate Purpose

From HPA axis analysis to the sizzle of a skillet—discover how Dr. Cheng Her integrates cutting-edge science with culinary arts in functional medicine. Join Dr. Lara Salyer as she explores Dr. Cheng Her's innovative union of medicine and meal prep. In addition to being a true food lover, Dr. Her is a physician and founder of Telos Functional and Integrative Medicine in La Crosse, Wisconsin. Dr. Her shares his journey from conventional family practice to functional medicine and discusses the importance of creating a space that reflects his passion and values.
He focuses on core functional medicine methods like HPA axis analysis, stool testing, and functional nutrigenomics, showing that a straightforward method can lead to meaningful results. A unique feature of Dr. Her's clinic is the teaching kitchen that is at the heart of his practice figuratively, and literally in the center of the building. It's more than a place for patients to learn about food and nutrition. It's a space for community, understanding the relationship between food and well-being, and for patients to connect over shared experiences.
As for what's next in his practice, Dr. Her plans to grow his team, incorporating nutrition experts and launching a mentorship program for other practitioners. He hopes his clinic will serve as a focal point for education and collaboration, helping both new and experienced professionals in their journey.Quotes:
• "So I've had great mentors tell me, what are the fundamental things that you feel are most important? And so in this clinic, everyone who comes through gets an HPA access analysis. Everyone gets a stool test. We want to make sure we get a good look at their microbiome. We want to see what's going on. And to a large extent, everyone's going to get some sort of functional nutrigenomics. (18:00 | Dr. Cheng Her) 
• "70 to 80% of folks have substantial gains with just these very modest, fundamental elements." (19:54 | Dr. Cheng Her)
• “People heal just from learning. And I think awareness is curative. And when you start looking at your own habits and your thought habits and your movement habits, your eating habits, you start to heal without even going deeper.” (23:24 | Dr. Lara Salyer) 
• “We have to first and foremost, take care of ourselves. We're only as good as we are to ourselves. And this is not just lip service. Our Fridays are off. I want folks to go home, tend to themselves, cook that delicious meal, throw a load of laundry in, walk the dog instead of busting through the weekend so they just come back next Monday. It's built into their benefits." (21:44 | Dr. Cheng Her)
 
Links
Connect with S. Cheng Her:
Website: www.telosfxnlmed.com
 
Connect with Lara: 
Workshop Eventbrite:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/membership-magic-design-your-own-3-tier-functional-medicine-membership-tickets-735854850667?aff=oddtdtcreator
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Make Your Charting Flowy and Effortless

Does patient charting feel like the bane of your existence? It doesn’t have to feel that way.In this episode, Dr. Salyer will tell you how it's done. She shares a game-changing tool, TextExpander, that allows you to create personalized shortcuts for your charting needs. By using this app, you can streamline your communication, ensure consistency, and save valuable time. Dr. Salyer walks you through her pre-charting routine, during which she copies and pastes relevant information from patient forms and pre-populates recurring items. She also shares her approach to creating concise and actionable visit summaries, making it easy for patients to understand their next steps. With Dr. Salyer's tips and techniques, you'll learn how to optimize your charting process, improve patient experience, and reclaim your time.
 
Quotes:
• "What we want to concentrate on is making your charting effective and easy, but also applicable for the patient on the other end, making it predictable so you have your own system, making it easy to retrieve information so that you know where to look." (3:43 | Dr. Lara) 
• "What I'm working on is your efficiency as a practitioner to get your own nomenclature figured out with your charting and your snippets, your dot phrases, your chart parts. There's so many names for those little tiny building blocks to create a chart." (04:22 | Dr. Lara)
• "So in addition to making your communication efficient and your charting efficient, text expanders allow you to be consistent, which is even more important." (16:27 | Dr. Lara)
• "Do a little bit of time enlarging your text expander repertoire, making a naming system that works with your brain, and start playing, start using it. And you'll be surprised how easy it is to get your pre-charting done so that when the patient's in front of you, and for those that don't know, my first initial visit is one hour and my follow-ups are a half an hour. And I'm never late, like ever. I don't go over. I am always on time, and it's because I'm ready. And when the patients start talking, I know where to put it in the chart." (25:53 | Dr. Lara) 
Links
Connect with Lara: 
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Membership Magic workshop: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/membership-magic-design-your-own-3-tier-functional-medicine-membership-tickets-735854850667?aff=oddtdtcreator
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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A New Narrative for Health, From Hollywood to Healthcare

“I help people take data and turn it into compelling storytelling,” explains Ari Mostov, a healthcare narrative strategist at WellPlay, a business consulting firm where she utilizes the power of storytelling to help healthcare consumers become more empowered and proactive agents of their own healing journeys. Storytelling is in our human DNA, Ari explains, and most of us aren’t fluent in the hard data involved in diagnosing and treating disease. By packaging data in relatable, allegorical form that clients can understand, healthcare professionals can increase the likelihood that patients will take the necessary steps to improve and maintain their health, while saving the professional a great deal of frustration. 
 
With a background as a Hollywood producer of film, television and gaming, Ari is well familiar with Joseph Campbell’s famous literary template the hero’s journey. Ultimately, each client is the hero in their own healing journey. In the same way that movie-goers often continue to co-create the narrative of their favorite films and enter into interactive worlds once they leave the theater, Ari hopes that healthcare consumers will do the same with healthcare once they leave the clinic. A big part of this is sharing their stories across social media where they can serve as inspiration and a source of motivation for others. Entertainment has proven to impact people’s behavior: when a patient watches a medical drama for example, they are more motivated to schedule and keep screening appointments, for example. 
 
As the daughter of a physician, Ari grew up with doctors who were well-acquainted with her unique story. Using “relentless imagination,” she is helping to reimagine the healthcare system to reaffirm patient’s agency and self-advocacy.
Quotes
• “Storytelling allows us to make meaning but it also allows us to create action, create mobilization, allow us to get from point A to point B, as long as we know what we want and where we're going.” (7:01 | Ari) 
• “It's sort of like putting me in front of my car's mechanic and him telling me all about the gears and the rotors and the whatevers. I wouldn't know what he's talking about, but he's having a blast with all the data. But when you tell me, Hey, your car is about to die on the highway, if you were to take it out, again, because your tires are flat, that makes sense. That's a story, and our patients deserve that as well.”(11:39 | Dr. Lara)
• “I do think there is a way to increase our own ability to self advocate and empower ourselves and really redesign the healthcare system in a way that reaffirms agency, reaffirms that at the end of the day, the person doing the healing is the patient, it's not the doctor, it's not the nurse, it's not the pharmacist. I have this belief that all healing is really self healing.” (15:16 | Ari) 
• “I really love how Hollywood has nailed down this fan model. Why can't we apply that to health care? So it's not just, ‘Oh, this is a healthcare experience that I enjoyed. It's actually, ‘This is a healthcare experience that I want to be a part of, I want to help co create, I want to continue.’” (20:28 | Ari)
• “There have been several instances where TV or films have had an educational component, but they're also really shifting the attitude, which I think, is even more important. You can go from, ‘Oh, yes, I'm aware that this is an issue, I'm aware that diabetes is a problem,’ or ‘I'm aware that maternal health is something I should be concerned about,’ to actually changing your attitude, and then even taking action. That's where the real power is.” (22:29 | Ari)
 
Links
Connect with Ari Mostov:
Website: https://www.wellplay.world/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ari-mostov/
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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The Evidence for Change: Why Integrative Medicine Needs Critical Thinkers

Searching for a balance between excellent patient care and practitioner well-being? In this episode of The Catalyst, Dr. Lara Salyer sits down with Dr. Jordan Robertson, a naturopathic doctor who is revolutionizing patient care and practitioner support in the field of integrative medicine. Together, they discuss Dr. Robertson's extensive work with Clarity Health, impacting over 20,000 patients, and her initiative, the Confident Clinician—a resource aimed at supporting naturopathic doctors globally.
 
Dr. Robertson sheds light on key insights, identifying three common challenges that often obstruct functional medicine practices, such as the tendency to focus too narrowly on tailored care or not leveraging essential support staff effectively. On the other side of the coin, she highlights three foundational elements for a successful integrative clinic: establishing a well-defined patient care process, maintaining expertise while actively collaborating, and valuing the power of a supportive community.
 
This episode provides insights and strategies that can enhance any practice, benefiting both patients and practitioners.
 
Quotes:
• "Hiring out to support your weaknesses so you can continue to focus on strengthening your strengths is an incredibly important step that I think takes that mindset for clinicians." (13:05 | Jordan Robertson)
• "I'm a big fan of collaborative care with conventional medicine. There are thousands and thousands of things that I wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole clinically. And I've drawn that line in the sand so hard. But my patients still respect everything I do have to offer. And I think when we have that level of confidence to say, “Yeah, you need an antibiotic’. Or, “Yeah, that's not in my scope of practice. I need you to be referred to so-and-so.” But that actually builds your practice. It doesn't decay it." (20:18 | Jordan Robertson) 
• "I think leadership in our profession actually looks like community. It actually looks like circles of clinicians who are willing to be vulnerable, to talk about what they're doing, to share with each other, and to pull each other up." (25:22 | Jordan Robertson) 
• "When I start thinking about critical thinking and critical appraisal I go right back to that education model where we need to value the clinicians that are coming out and recognize that they are the best we've got. Even if it's day one of their graduation and it's really our responsibility as people in the profession to help get them there and help support them. So when we start to challenge that, it really challenges the things that we think we know. And it really starts to value changing our mind." (30:31 | Dr. Jordan Robertson)
 
Links
Connect with Dr. Jordan Robertson ND:
Website: www.confidentclinicianclub.com
Instagram: @drjordannd
 
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
The Catalyst Way: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
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