The Catalyst: Sparking Creative Transformation in Healthcare

Welcome to The Catalyst, the podcast where we explore creative ideas to spark innovation in an unhealthy healthcare system. Join your host Dr. Lara Salyer, a physician and mom of three, who suffered burnout, resigned and is re-imagining the way she practices medicine. After training with the Institute for Functional Medicine and Flow Research Collective, Lara now teaches patients and practitioners how to optimize flow to catalyze their own revolution in healing. Tune in for candid conversations with leading experts in conventional and holistic healthcare, who dare to believe a better future is possible for all of us. We’ll cover topics from organizational efficiency to creative technology to proven methods to think differently about the practice of independent medicine. Life is made up of tiny, catalytic moments of immense impact. When strung together, the transformation is magical. Join us, and let’s color outside the lines!

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Episodes

Friday May 12, 2023

“Wellness, because it's the Wild West, there are no black and white answers oftentimes when it comes to, ‘Can I do this? Or can't I do this?” explains Barbara J. Zabawa, JD, MPH. Barbara is the founder and president of Wellness Law, a legal services company dedicated to improving wellness law compliance for health and wellness professionals and companies. She is also the founder of Pursesuitz, a mission based fashion company, and Lemon Spark, a movement and podcast celebrating the sparks that lead people to meaningful pursuits after experiencing life's lemons. Today, Barbara joins host Lara to discuss how wellness law can help you to practice safely and compliantly.
 
Barbara started her company because she saw a gap in the market for providing legal services to those outside of the scope of traditional health law. Much of wellness law is less regulated as practitioners tend to not be licensed and governed in the same way as traditional healthcare providers. It’s possible to unintentionally break the law by providing professional health services to people in states where you are unlicensed. If you are marketing yourself as a coach, but you really emphasize your credentials as a doctor or a nurse, that could end up being seen as a violation of the law. It is important to really keep your wellness business separate from any professional license you hold in order to not run into compliance issues.
 
With the increase in telemedicine availability, more and more healthcare providers are offering services to people outside of their home state. This can cause legal complications if you are not licensed in the state where your clients reside. Since wellness professionals often do not require licensure to practice, they have the benefit of a bit more legal flexibility. Even so, you still have to be cautious of how you market your services.
 
Quotes
• “Even though there may be technical violations of the law, there's not a lot of appetite at this moment from some of the licensing boards to do anything about it.” (21:30-21:40 | Barbara)
• “The more you emphasize that credential, the more likely it is that you will be held to that standard.” (24:55-25:02 | Barbara)
• “Wellness, because it's the Wild West, there are no black and white answers oftentimes when it comes to, ‘Can I do this? Or can't I do this?’, when it comes to legal questions.” (25:33-25:48 | Barbara)
• “You need to be licensed where your patients are. It's not enough that you have a license in the state where you reside.” (28:38-28:48 | Barbara) 
• “In order to really satisfy the market need for cross border practice, the laws are going to have to accommodate that. Otherwise, I think the licensed professions will suffer.” (33:14-33:30 | Barbara)
 
 
Links
Connect with Barbara J. Zabawa:
Website: www.wellnesslaw.com; www.pursesuitz.com; www.lemonspark.com
Twitter: @wellnessatty; @puresuitz; @lemonsparkstories
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/barbarazabawa
Instagram: @wellnessattorney; @pursesuitz; @lemonsparkstories
Facebook: @centerforhealthandwellnesslaw; @pursesuitz; @lemonspark
Connect with Lara: 
Functional Medicine Micropractice Checklist: https://healthinnate.activehosted.com/f/47
Catalyst Studio Mentorship: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday May 05, 2023

As we continue to do the work to uncover old thought patterns and rewire our brains for success, it is helpful to give ourselves daily reminders to keep going. In today’s episode, host Dr. Lara Salyer shares 7 daily mantras that she uses in both her personal and professional lives to keep herself moving forward. 
 
We become the thoughts we think. So it is important for all healthcare practitioners and entrepreneurs to implement a set of beliefs into their daily routine, and one of the best ways to do this is by repeating short mantras to yourself. That way when the going gets tough, you can take a moment to step pause and get back on track. For Dr. Lara, a few of her favorite mantras include asking herself if she’s done the bare minimum, finding a place to dump and organize her ideas, structuring tasks to make them easier, and focusing her attention on things that will grow her flow. 
 
These mantras have not only been effective in Dr. Lara’s life, but the lives of many other practitioners that she has mentored. Join the conversation for a deeper dive on how you can utilize these 7 mantras to lower cortisol and guide you towards success! 
 
Quotes
• “These mantras are key because it is an opportunity for me to take that pause, gain new perspective, and get back on track with what matters.” (01:13-01:22 | Dr. Lara)
• “You don't need to take large steps to make amazing transformations in your life.” (03:16-03:20 | Dr. Lara)
• “We can sabotage our own efforts because we are distrustful of things being easy.” (04:28-04:32 | Dr. Lara)
• “If you have a place for everything and everything has its place, if your ideas have a home and you have some organization, you will feel so much more in control and cortisol will lower.” (07:33-07:45 | Dr. Lara)
• “Looking at success in metrics that matter to you is more important than comparing yourself to other success metrics like dollars or likes on social media.” (11:28-11:39 | Dr. Lara)
• “If we nurture and tend our thoughts very carefully, we will grow what matters to us and we will be able to prime our brain for more flow opportunities.” (13:41-13:51 | Dr. Lara)
 
Links
Connect with Lara: 
Amazon Store front: https://www.amazon.com/shop/drlarasalyer
Free Restoration Plan: https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday Apr 28, 2023

“The problem with burnout is the workplace, not the worker,” shares Dr. Paul DeChant, CEO of the Sutter Gould Medical Foundation. Today, Dr. Paul joins host Lara to discuss the 6 drivers of burnout, including the systemic issues in our healthcare system that really need to be addressed in order to reduce burnout on a whole.
 
Often physicians blame themselves for their burnout or think it is all just due to exhaustion from work overload. In truth, burnout is largely a result of the system needing to be redesigned to work better for both physicians and patients alike. The main drivers of burnout are work overload, lack of control, insufficient reward, breakdown of community, absence of fairness, and values conflicts. People tend to become doctors because they love working with patients, but within the current system, two thirds of their time is spent on other tasks like administrative duties rather than time spent actually caring for patients. With restructuring, the system could be adapted to control for the drivers of burnout so that physicians are able to spend more time doing what they do best.
 
Burnout is not your fault, it’s the system’s. It’s easy to blame yourself for a lack of resilience, but the truth is that the majority of what drives burnout are factors built into the current healthcare system. 
 
Quotes
• “The problem with burnout is the workplace, not the worker.” (3:47-3:51 | Dr. Paul) 
• “Most people think it's exhaustion from overload and don't invest enough in redesigning.” (7:06-7:11 | Dr. Paul)
• “Recognize that the people who are doing the work and are suffering from that dysfunction, they know what's wrong. They have great ideas to make it better. They just don't rarely get the opportunity.” (8:55-9:07 | Dr. Paul)
• “The things that drive cynicism, control, reward, community, fairness, and values, those have so much to do with how you lead.” (13:23-13:32 | Dr. Paul)
Links
Connect with Paul DeChant:
Website: www.pauldechantmd.com
 
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday Apr 21, 2023

“The bare minimum is better than what conventional medicine has right now. Conventional medicine does not offer any functional medicine testing. So by picking two functional tests that really intrigue you and learning them well so that you can apply them strategically, you will help more patients than if you try to learn all the tests in a scattered fashion,” explains host Dr. Lara Salyer. Today, Dr. Lara shares what she would do differently if she were starting a functional medicine clinic in entrepreneur care with the knowledge she has now.
 
Dr. Lara suggests a three step process for starting as a functional medicine practitioner as an entrepreneur. The first step is ‘select’ which refers to selecting your introductory offering and any team members you may need such as an accountant or a mentor. Keep the introductory offering to something simple like a 60 minute visit. It can be easy to get distracted by all of the exciting opportunities provided by functional medicine, so be sure to stay focused on the patient in front of you and your core values. Use your values to guide your decisions so that you do not end up overwhelmed. Next, begin to streamline and create a signature method to follow. This is where you can create educational materials so that your clients do not need to go to you with every little question. Finally, strategize and decide on your membership model. 
 
Being an entrepreneur as a functional medicine practitioner allows you the freedom to build your business your way. However, it can quickly become overwhelming if you do not narrow your focus. Get very clear on what your values are and use them to anchor you, so that you do not get off track. 
 
Quotes
• “The bare minimum is better than what conventional has right now. Conventional medicine does not offer any functional medicine testing. So when you learn how to do two things well, picking two functional tests that really intrigue you and learn them very well so that you can apply them strategically, you will help more patients than if you try to learn all the tests in a scattered fashion in a superficial way.” (6:08-6:35 | Dr. Lara)
• “The more clear you are on your values, that anchors you deep into why you're doing what you're doing.” (9:06-9:12 | Dr. Lara)
• “Stay with your blinders on and focus on the patient in front of you, focus on each case.” (19:57-20:02 | Dr. Lara)
• “As a healthcare entrepreneur, I didn't want to be a salesperson. I wanted to be a teacher, period.” (23:02-23:08 | Dr. Lara) 
 
Links
Connect with Lara: 
Time Management Calendar download: https://healthinnate.activehosted.com/f/49
https://drlarasalyer.com/links 
https://www.positiveintelligence.com/saboteurs/
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday Apr 14, 2023

“If I could go back six years in primary care, I would have approached my administrators differently. I would have said, ‘Hey, I'm very excited about functional medicine, but it's not for everybody. So here's my ideas’,” explains host Dr. Lara Salyer. Today, Dr. Lara shares her ideas for how to incorporate functional medicine into primary care.
 
Functional medicine is not for everyone. It’s not the same as traditional medicine where a patient just needs to take a pill. Instead, the patient has to be on board to really commit to a lifestyle change. In order to get the medical industry on board with adding functional medicine to their services, it is important to approach practice administrators with a clear strategy and metrics that show how these services will be financially beneficial. Dr. Lara shares three critical steps for how she would go about combining functional medicine and primary care, starting with carefully selecting the patient type that you will be servicing and selecting the metric you will use to measure success.
 
The future of functional medicine lies in primary care. The world of functional medicine is vast and can be quite overwhelming, so it is helpful to really consider what patient type you want to focus on. Choose one patient type and one or two related functional tests that will be your specialty, and only target those pre qualified individuals.
 
Quotes
• “Functional Medicine is a partnership. You need to select the patient type that is ready to do the hard work.” (6:20-6:29 | Dr. Lara)
• “When you're learning functional medicine and trying to unroll this to the masses, you can't be an expert in everything.” (7:47-7:53 | Dr. Lara)
• “You're practicing functional medicine any time that you are daring to look deeper than what insurance allows and what the dogma says.” (8:06-8:15 | Dr. Lara) 
• “When you're selecting patients you need to already be strategizing. Ask yourself, are they the right fit?” (17:34-17:39 | Dr. Lara)
• “If I could go back six years in primary care, I would have approached my administrators differently. I would have said, ‘Hey, I'm very excited about functional medicine, but it's not for everybody. So here's my ideas’.” (20:04-20:16 | Dr. Lara)
 
Links
Connect with Lara: 
Time Management Calendar download: https://healthinnate.activehosted.com/f/49
https://drlarasalyer.com/links 
https://www.positiveintelligence.com/saboteurs/
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday Apr 07, 2023

“We provide on a one-on-one basis a dedicated scribe who is a real human being who will work at the right hand of the provider every day throughout their clinic,” explains Steven Sica, VP of ScribeEMR, a provider of virtual scribe and virtual assistant services for medical providers of every specialty across the country. Today, Steven shares how a virtual scribe or virtual assistant can help providers regain their time and sanity.
 
Providers are busier than ever,d and quality, reliable healthcare staff is harder and harder to find. Patient care suffers when providers have less time to spend with each patient and are losing a huge portion of their days to updating electronic medical records. By bringing in a virtual scribe, the provider now regains the portion of their time that would have otherwise been spent updating charts. This virtual assistant is not AI or any sort of complicated technology, it is a real person trained in the provider’s speciality and available solely through audio on a laptop, tablet, or computer. They serve as a fly on the wall during appointments and reduce the workload of the provider.
 
Statistics show many healthcare providers are suffering from burnout. They have to see more patients in shorter time slots, spend long hours updating charts instead of going home on time to their families, and have less support staff available to help them. Instead of the healthcare facilities having to hire more staff, bringing on a virtual scribe can be a less expensive and more practical option that reduces stress and frees up valuable time. 
 
Quotes
• “We provide on a one on one basis a dedicated scribe who is a real human being who will work at the right hand of the provider every day throughout their clinic.” (6:04-6:15 | Steven)
• “We don't use any video, so it's not intrusive on the patient.” (6:38-6:42 | Steven)
• “What we recommend is putting up a placard on the exam room door, even inside the exam room, to let the patient know that there is a virtual scribe being used.” (11:19-11:29 | Steven)
• “Time is the most precious commodity that we have.” (12:15-12:17 | Steven) 
 
Links
Connect with Steven Sica:
Website: www.ScribeEMR.com 
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/stevensica
 
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday Mar 31, 2023

“My mission really is to equip you with the knowledge to take advantage of all these AI tools so you can increase productivity, reduce cost for your marketing, and reduce cognitive drain,” explains Uli Iserloh, PhD. Today, Uli shares 4 actionable tips for using ChatGPT and other artificial intelligence tools to the fullest extent of their abilities.
 
Everyone is talking about ChatGPT, but you may be unaware of how you could be taking advantage of this tool as a health and wellness professional. ChatGPT is completely changing how people go about seeking and conveying information, because it is free to use, easy to learn, and makes a remarkable difference in productivity. Uli explains that ChatGPT functions similarly to having a team of interns that you can educate to do specific tasks. ChatGPT is currently not connected to the internet. It does not have the PubMed database to draw on, so it still needs to be guided and educated by your own expertise in order to give correct answers to your prompts. 
 
When you take the time to educate ChatGPT on who you are, what your business does, and give it very specific requirements for output, it can be an incredibly helpful tool for getting tasks off your plate. Artificial intelligence programs like ChatGPT are getting smarter and being constantly improved. When you learn how to take advantage of these AI tools, you can better educate your clients, automate marketing tasks, and get more accomplished in less time than ever before.
 
Quotes
• “There's statistics that say health and wellness are probably the biggest sector for artificial intelligence to disrupt.” (3:40-3:47 | Uli)
• “It is a great assistant. It will never replace you as the health and wellness professional.” (9:00-9:04 | Uli)
• “It doesn't have the perfect database of all of PubMed, all the stuff that you like to draw on. And if you say, hey, where did this come from? There's no source that it goes back to.” (10:51-11:01 | Uli)
• “Think of ChatGPT really as the ecosystem of having 10, 20, 30 interns working for you each with a specific job assignment with a specific role with a specific education.” (19:33-19:46 | Uli) 
• “My mission really is to equip you with the knowledge to take advantage of all these AI tools so you can increase productivity, reduce cost for your marketing, and reduce cognitive drain.” (32:12-32:24 | Uli)
 
Links
Connect with Uli Iserloh:
WORKSHOP: https://bigboost.marketing/chatGPT
 
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday Mar 24, 2023

“Every single woman needs to understand their numbers in their business,” shares Danielle Hayden, CEO and founder of Kickstart Accounting. Today, Danielle discusses why she shifted away from her corporate finance career to become an entrepreneur and how changing your money mindset by befriending your financials can decrease burnout. 
 
One day while Danielle was sitting in a board meeting, she realized that she could be using her expertise to benefit entrepreneurs, particularly women entrepreneurs. This catalyst led her to open Kickstart Accounting where she now employs 25 women in a male dominated industry who work primarily in helping other women entrepreneurs. She explains that understanding your numbers is crucial for success, and it is also best to be able to access that information in a non-judgemental space. People tend to shy away from talking about money and may have inherited a money mindset story from their parents, teachers, or peers. But by really analyzing and understanding the numbers, you can reform your money mindset so that handling your business finances does not send you spiraling into burnout. 
 
Numbers do not have to be overwhelming. It is okay to talk about money and even spend money, but so many people are ashamed or just not confident enough to make monetary decisions. These feelings often stem from the money stories you grew up with and may not actually apply to your current life situation. When you get more knowledgeable about your finances, then you can approach money from a different perspective and feel more secure investing in your business.
 
Quotes
• “Every single woman needs to understand their numbers in their business, how to read a profit loss statement, how to read a balance sheet, how to create a budget, and have that information in a space that's non-judgmental, that is safe.” (5:02-5:19 | Danielle)
• “There are actually so many people who need to let go of their money because they're holding on for dear life.” (14:35-14:41 | Danielle)
• “It's a really brave thing to become a business owner and we don't have to make everything so hard.” (29:14-29:21 | Danielle) 
• “We're allowed as business owners to disrupt the industry, and we can break the mold and recreate it.” (32:25-35:30 | Danielle)
 
Links
Connect with Danielle Hayden:
Website: https://kickstartaccountinginc.com/
Kickstart Socials:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kickstartaccountinginc/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kickstartaccounting/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/kickstart-accounting-inc-/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/KickstartAcct
Danielle Socials:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daniellehayden__oh/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-hayden-kickstartaccounting/
 
Connect with Lara: 
https://drlarasalyer.com/catalyst
Free Functional Medicine Checklist: https://healthinnate.activehosted.com/f/47
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday Mar 17, 2023

“For almost all my patients the common themes that I began to see was standard American diet, trauma, and toxins,” shares Dr. Aruna Tummala, MD. Dr. Aruna is a board certified adult and geriatric psychiatrist and the founder of Psychiatry 2.0 and Trinergy Health. She chose to shift into integrative psychiatry because she was frustrated with the traditional approach which focuses on prescribing medications rather than actually seeking out the root causes of chronic mental illness problems. Today, Dr. Aruna discusses her experiences working in psychiatry in India and how it differs dramatically from the model used in the United States. She also shares her approach to mental wellness and the three root causes of mental illness she has repeatedly seen in her patients. 
 
In India, Dr. Aruna was taught that since there is no way to know exactly what causes mental illness, it is necessary to always look for medical neurological causes first. In the U.S., however, the body and mind are largely viewed as completely separate entities. She was reprimanded for attempting to incorporate more integrative approaches and for refusing to medicate patients with antipsychotics, opioids, and antidepressants. When she opened her own practice she began to see that there were three overall root causes of mental illness: the standard American diet, trauma, and toxins. In most cases, there was not a true chemical imbalance, and in the absence of a chemical imbalance it is generally unnecessary to use psychiatric medications.
 
Psychiatrists in the United States are so removed from the rest of the medical community. Mental health is seen as completely separate from the rest of the body, when that could not be further from the truth. The root causes of mental illness are often coming from other areas in the body, so an integrative approach is much more conducive to recovery than simply prescribing antidepressants. 
Quotes
• “We really don't know what causes mental illness. We think it is a chemical imbalance. So the very least that we can do is look for medical neurological causes.” (4:44-4:53 | Dr. Aruna)
• “For almost all my patients the common themes that I began to see was standard American diet, trauma, and toxins.” (23:06-23:14 | Dr. Aruna)
• “If there is no chemical imbalance, why are we keeping these medications?” (32:55-32:58 | Dr. Aruna)
• “It doesn't matter whether you have schizophrenia, bipolar, depression, anxiety, PTSD. Everyone can heal and recover.” (38:39-38:45 | Dr. Aruna)
 
Links
 
Connect with Aruna Tummala:
Website: www.trinergyhealth.com and www.Psychiatry2.com
Substack: arunatummala.substack.com
Facebook: Facebook.com/TrinergyHealth; Facebook.com/TrinergyAyurveda
Twitter: https://twitter.com/trinergy_health
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trinergyhealth
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9XRgM7O5H28e8-Ogma-BtA
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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Friday Mar 10, 2023

“I like to give people as many choices as possible, and I always want to make sure that you feel like you're in control,” explains Megan Mitts, registered art therapist and founder of Art From Anxiety LLC. Megan created her art therapy business as a way to share low risk, high reward therapeutic art activities in a more accessible way that focuses on an artists’ success while also aiming to improve their mental health. The methods she shares are safe for anyone to do on their own and to share with others, and they help people gain more tools for being able to cope with difficult emotions like grief. Today, Megan discusses her professional journey and shares how she uses art therapy to make art from anxiety.
 
Art therapy is a fantastic method for coping with difficult emotions and regulating mental health. One of Megan’s go-to methods to redirect people and give them a reprieve from their emotions is called mega-grounding. For this she asks people to name an animal, an action, and a place. The answers can be rather silly and help take people out of their distressing mental state. Megan chooses her art tools based on emotional need, such as using more rigid tools for a sense of control when overwhelmed and making reconstructive art when dealing with grief. 
 
Channeling anxiety into art is a constructive way of redirecting emotions. Through art therapy, people can learn coping mechanisms that empower them to take control over their own mental health. 
 
Quotes
• “There's a caterpillar dancing in Egypt. Like, oh, okay. It's silly, but it's okay, and these little tools of using our brain in different ways are what can be so helpful in the moment.” (9:15-9:27 | Dr. Lara)
• “Ultimately, my goal is just to help people make art and feel better.” (15:54-15:57 | Megan)
• “I like to give people as many choices as possible, and I always wanna make sure that you feel like you're in control.” (17:31-17:36 | Megan)
• “A lot of people think that grief is something that you only experience when you do lose someone, but a lot of times it is a change in your role. It's a change in someone else's role.” (29:53-30:04 | Megan)
 
Links
 
Connect with Megan Mitts:
Website: ArtFromAnxiety.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@art_from_anxiety
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@art_from_anxiety
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/art_from_anxiety/
Connect with Lara: 
Website: https://drlarasalyer.com
Instagram: @drlarasalyer
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drlarasalyer
Linked-In: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drlarasalyer/
YouTube:  https://www.youtube.com/c/DrLaraSalyer
TikTok: @Creativity.Doctor
 
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